Comments on: #eharmony Match.com, desperate to fluff up membership numbers, resorts to bribery… http://eharmony-blog.com/2172 Unofficial, comprehensive and commercial-free guide to eHarmony with news, opinion, discussions and advice Fri, 17 May 2013 04:24:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Muslim Speed Dating http://eharmony-blog.com/2172/comment-page-1#comment-141245 Muslim Speed Dating Wed, 01 Feb 2012 07:53:22 +0000 http://eharmony-blog.com/?p=2172#comment-141245 I tried Match.com prior to signing up to EHarmony. It doesn’t surprise me that they’re offering incentives like this – their service was fairly lackluster.

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By: Marc Azada http://eharmony-blog.com/2172/comment-page-1#comment-126929 Marc Azada Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:55:37 +0000 http://eharmony-blog.com/?p=2172#comment-126929 I totally agree . I think people should be cautious in sharing when it comes to sharing this profile online. Online dating is not bad but it’s better to be safe than sorry.

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By: logicalsolution http://eharmony-blog.com/2172/comment-page-1#comment-124025 logicalsolution Wed, 03 Aug 2011 05:55:58 +0000 http://eharmony-blog.com/?p=2172#comment-124025 So to be honest I have no faith in the matching system with 29 blah blah that eHarmony uses nor the algorithm that match boasts this week in Slate Magazine’s writeup. And no I don’t think it would work for the Sound Indian culture, because they focus on totally different parameters: Astro sign (for hindus), Religion, Profession, Immigration status, Family background, financial stability…so you get the picture. They could care less if you are compatible on 29 dimensions as long as they include the mentioned list. :-)

I don’t think most profiles on Shaadi are put up by parents, I think there are a lot of people who put up their own profiles and pretend to be the parent or the friend to get the facts and details in place before they start talking themselves ( I speak from experience to some extent here), mostly because they don’t want to appear as losers.

In the end, I think there should be sites for serious marriage minded people and dating only/hanging out/just looking people and hookup people they should be distinct – that way we are not wasting time on dates and no matter how single you are it is a waste of time.

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By: SingleGuyInNC http://eharmony-blog.com/2172/comment-page-1#comment-124023 SingleGuyInNC Wed, 03 Aug 2011 05:40:12 +0000 http://eharmony-blog.com/?p=2172#comment-124023 Agreed. Your points are exactly why I shut down my Match.com profile. I do not think that I will ever bother with it again, no matter how tempting some of the profiles are.

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By: SingleGuyInNC http://eharmony-blog.com/2172/comment-page-1#comment-124022 SingleGuyInNC Wed, 03 Aug 2011 05:38:03 +0000 http://eharmony-blog.com/?p=2172#comment-124022 I had forgotten about all the other options for who could post on someone’s behalf but wouldn’t you say that it is mostly parents doing that?

These days, I don’t think that any “serious” people come to eHarmony now that it is so well known and advertised. Everyone takes the test and gets matches just to see what the deal is, hoping for a perfect match and most of them don’t subscribe.

I think that the culture itself plays a large role in the site’s success because those people are coming to it with their goals, as you state. In other words, if all the accounts on Match.com or even the supposedly more “serious” folks on eHarmony were migrated to a copy of the site that was setup to be more culture neutral, I don’t think that the site’s approach would be more successful with those members.

I think that eHarmony’s approach would work well with the Shaadi population in terms of factoring in personality but you can’t do that if someone else is taking the test for you. The suggestions in NCW’s book how to know if they are a date or soulmate in two dates, also a good thing for the people involved in a matchmaker situation where one would allow for the couple to see how they fit together.

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By: logicalsolution http://eharmony-blog.com/2172/comment-page-1#comment-124020 logicalsolution Wed, 03 Aug 2011 05:25:52 +0000 http://eharmony-blog.com/?p=2172#comment-124020 Never the less…my frustration is paying and not being able to contact non-paid members. It’s basically restricting the available pool in a major way. If everyone didn’t have to pay to be dating (by being pursued by a paying member) then you’d have more active members online and more matches. Another interesting feature of shaadi is that everyone gets to “show interest” paid or not…its the same as “smile” or “wink”…this was if a member knows who’s interested they may be more willing to pay. In the case of match you cant even see who emailed you – why would you pay only to be disappointed? In the end, if these sites actually resulted in rewarding relationships I think there wouldn’t be a whole site dedicated to grumbling customers looking for a free ride…

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By: logicalsolution http://eharmony-blog.com/2172/comment-page-1#comment-124018 logicalsolution Wed, 03 Aug 2011 05:11:25 +0000 http://eharmony-blog.com/?p=2172#comment-124018 You are partly correct it is cultural, most people on Shaadi (direct English translation is “Marriage”) are looking to get married and not date indefinitely or “just hook-up” or even live together up but I think eHarmony is the US equivalent – wouldn’t you say? As for Shaadi, anyone can post a profile (parents, friends, siblings or person themselves) so it’s not restricted in the way to mention. The difference between the way that works vs. match or other sites like it work is that Shaadi is very purposeful. In America wanting a commitment quickly or wanting to be married is seen as weird or creepy; hanging out and commitment less dating and banging as many people as you can before getting married is seen as a mark of a well lived single life. The perception is that having lots of monogamous sex within a married relationship is for losers and traditionally backward people. Hence the flakes…

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By: SingleGuyInNC http://eharmony-blog.com/2172/comment-page-1#comment-124015 SingleGuyInNC Wed, 03 Aug 2011 05:00:15 +0000 http://eharmony-blog.com/?p=2172#comment-124015 That model does makes sense but for some reason, the greed of the dating sites has blinded them to this.

I seem to recall a few of them that were operating under that idea but they aren’t the major players and if you don’t have members, even with a good model, you have a problem (i.e. RewardingLove).

From what I recall when I looked at Shaadi, it has some interesting things going on that may be contributing to its success. It is somewhat centered around a certain culture. From what I recall when I looked at it (now many years ago), parents post profiles on behalf of their children and play matchmaker (I’m not saying that is a bad thing just different than the norm) and it is encouraged/accepted (because it is in that culture). I would think that their involvement and the fact that there is that sort of matchmaking going on, may increase the likelihood to pay for a subscription/etc and have increased success. Basically, a significant number of folks that are serious about forming a relationship are on there and not the flaky bunch that normally are on dating sites…

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By: logicalsolution http://eharmony-blog.com/2172/comment-page-1#comment-124012 logicalsolution Wed, 03 Aug 2011 04:45:06 +0000 http://eharmony-blog.com/?p=2172#comment-124012 The dating sites have it messed up, paying members should have the ability to contact and share their contact info with ANYONE, even non-paid members. That is the only way it makes sense, or else you are just contacting people who will never respond because they are no longer actually there! All these sites could make more money this way and have satisfied paying customers. Shaadi is the only dating site that does this and look at the number of matches they have…

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By: FernandoArdenghi http://eharmony-blog.com/2172/comment-page-1#comment-120392 FernandoArdenghi Fri, 29 Apr 2011 04:52:11 +0000 http://eharmony-blog.com/?p=2172#comment-120392 RewardingLove failed because it was a Behavioural Bidirectional Recommendation Engine based on the paper “Recommender System for Online Dating Service” 2007

Recommender systems do not take into account the discovery uncovered by Eastwick and Finkel 2008; also Kurzban and Weeden, 2007; Todd, Penke, Fasolo, and Lenton, 2007 who found that people often report partner preferences that are not compatible with their choices in real life.

Latest Research in Theories of Romantic Relationships Development had shown compatibility is all about a high level on personality* similarity* between prospective mates for long term mating with commitment.
*personality measured with a normative test.
*similarity: there are different ways to calculate similarity, it depends on how mathematically is defined.

eHarmony/eDarling’s personality similarity approach is correct, but how eHarmony/eDarling assesses personality (intoxicated with Big5) and how eHarmony/eDarling calculates similarity (low precision method) is incorrect.

Without offering the 16PF5 (or similar test measuring exactly the 16 personality factors) for serious dating, it will be impossible to innovate and revolutionize the Online Dating Industry.

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By: SingleGuyInNC http://eharmony-blog.com/2172/comment-page-1#comment-120383 SingleGuyInNC Fri, 29 Apr 2011 01:55:14 +0000 http://eharmony-blog.com/?p=2172#comment-120383 I agree that they are so ineffective that they should disappear. It seems rather impossible to do, short of doing things that would be in violation of their terms of service (or the law) in order to gain access to all the members and be able to have a platform to show them “the light”.

The only other way would be to take up a collection from the well informed and frustrated online daters, such as those on here and run some sort of commercial to inform them, sort of like the ads that were going up against tobacco in the US. For Match.com, it would be ideal to piggyback that onto the class action suit.

Alternately, create a better dating site and direct people to it. That was what I think some of us had hoped RewardingLove would be but the information you provided appears to shed a new light on it…

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By: FernandoArdenghi http://eharmony-blog.com/2172/comment-page-1#comment-120378 FernandoArdenghi Fri, 29 Apr 2011 00:01:59 +0000 http://eharmony-blog.com/?p=2172#comment-120378 All subscribers from Match/Chemistry and eHarmony/eDarling should unsubscribe, in protest of their low efficiency, and make those obsolete sites collapse during 2011!

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