What doesn’t work with eHarmony customer service representatives…

This is in response to this post and ensuing discussion.  It has sort of turned into a “let’s rate how eHarmony customer service given what we know”.

Disclaimer:

My experience, of course, may be unique and not typical to the service but given what we collectively know about what they do and have done for others, I gave them the opportunity to play me like a violin and boy was their song out of tune.

Summary:

They failed miserably, in my opinion, given what we know about what CS can do.

Main points

  • If you have a beef with eHarmony, you HAVE to do it as a paying customer
  • They do not care if you WERE a paying customer
  • They do not even sell their service well given the golden opportunity they have an individual on the hook when you are on the phone but resort to the same tactics they use to rope in the masses

[The last point is truly an example of bad customer service practice having been on the other end and basic business 101: "the customer is always right"]

Flash back to my dilemma documented in the above thread, lots of scammers and not feeling the love for the service.  Shar got comped a month for reporting scammers, so the question was “why not me”?  A good question.  I e-mailed them my question.  I got a boilerplate response back that didn’t address my question about being comped a month and they TOTALLY ignored my questions of how to make better use of the service and feel like it was actually working for me.

So, flash forward to today.  I finally have the time and presence of mind to call them up and plead my case.  The bottom line is they will not (I’m sure that they could) extend an inactive account because it had already expired (early June).  Even if I did call them up immediately when I saw Shar got an extension, I most likely would have gotten the same response, because my account expired by the time I found out about her good fortune.

So I proceed to prod and find out what exactly can I get out of them for my plight.

What was their best offer?

“We’ll give you 2 months for the price of 1″ @ $59 per month

<laughs in disbelief>
You’ve got to be kidding me!

“Uhh, you ROUTINELY give 3 months for 1.”

Okay, we’ll extend it for 3 months.  I’m not feeling the love.  You aren’t really making me feel special.  Customer service 101.

“I see you have given 3 months for $45″
- I don’t have that promotional code to give you

“When will that code be around?”
- I don’t know.

$15 a month was tolerable.  $20 not so much for me, given I got a membership for 12 months for $155 in 2007 ($12.90 a month).

Perhaps if less people jump on the lame codes they are giving now, they will see their bottom line dropping and will start having to actuallly compete for our business.

The representative wasn’t willing to/able to do anything for me besides what their screen/script says they can do.  Being an informed consumer and that the “deal” they were giving me wasn’t really a deal, I told them I’d be shopping around.

Ruh-oh.  Red flag!  Red flag!  Customer about to jump ship!

Then they immediate cited they have 200-ish people getting married a day and how successful they are.  Unbelievable.  Reassuring me that your methodology works for others and will bring me back and convert me to a sale?  Who thought of that?

What went through my mind as she says this:

Why I wasn’t one of those people for the 1.5 years that I was a paying member?  They should be helping me to become one of those people, looking at my account settings, suggesting changes, like I’ve heard they have done for others.  I know (as an uber-informed user/consumer of their service) it is in their duties/realm to do that.  This hard-line of “pay-up” doesn’t work very well with a product that deals with emotions and the human condition.  They should be training the CS reps better or setting their scripts up to help uplift folks and gently ease them into a subscription (given that is all that they do).  Tell me what I can do differently.  Make suggestions about my account.  Even if they aren’t specific, the script could suggest if you feel like you aren’t having much luck they can ask “have you taken new pictures”?  Etc.  Etc.  Etc.  So many potential ways to improve their response.

It just didn’t feel like they were making ANY effort to truly retain/bring me back as a customer.  I’ve gotten other companies to budge on fees charged/etc. and it was their business to take/keep my money.  eHarmony didn’t “throw me a bone”.

At this point, I mentioned that I “read around” and I’m not too satisfied with the service and that not everyone is happy with the service and they sort of just brushed that aside and it’s back to their success mantra.  Well great.

Again, you should help make me one of those people. Don’t tell me about it.  Show MEWork for ME.

So, the obvious question remains: why aren’t they trying to make those of us unhappy with the service happy?  Because there is another sucker down the line willing to pay $60 for one month, their most profitable price-point.  It probably is deemed that it costs too much to bother to take the initiative, which I think is an essential part of the game of this type of service.

I want to emphasize again that this is (at least) the second time that they totally neglected the second part of my initial request (which they looked up and ostensibly read, since when I called I didn’t say anything about a freebie, I just referenced that they dropped the ball and didn’t answer my question in a prior CS incident).  The second part of my request was how to maximize use of the service, which would have been a perfect opportunity/selling point to demonstrate (show me, don’t tell me) how they actually care about all customers or potential customers.  Since I wasn’t a paying customer, apparently, the only thing they are interested in is to make me a paying customer again and not my success as a user of their service.

I played the role of a typical customer and they failed pretty miserably, in my opinion. Others may read this and think otherwise or that I’m a whiny complainer.  That’s fine but I’ve been around the block and this is my story and I’m sticking to it.

Maybe I’ll keep calling back every couple of days to see what promotion they will extend me and keep declining until it’s a promotion that is worth a darn, just to see if they catch on.  I am curious about the matches that responded after FCW but I’m having a hard time justifying to myself to spend $60 to find out, even if that $60 gets me 3 months of service.

I just got an e-mail asking to rate my CS experience over the phone.  Oh boy.  This is going to be fun to fill out!  :)

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    Comments 37

    1. SingleGuyInNC wrote:

      I would also like to another way that eHarmony fumbled the ball…

      They aren’t even good at making money!
      (in my case)

      I would have been willing to resubscribe right then on the phone with 3 months service @ $45 instead of the “regular” $60, just because they were willing to “give in a little” but in the end, they actually lost $15 on me because I used a code I found on here instead!

      There were valid codes floating around with better offers that they couldn’t/wouldn’t give me over the phone. I don’t get that. That’s just bad for business. I have heard the same thing with cable/sat providers. It’s just retarded of a company not to do that, especially with how savvy customers are these days. I have to wonder if they lose more business by doing this.

      This is also far better than the 1 year deal I got but then you aren’t guaranteed 1 year of service at a low rate. I think, at the time the deal I got was better than anything else what was published in terms of per month cost.

      Use eHarmony Blog for all your eHarmony information needs!

      Posted 05 Sep 2008 at 11:33 am
    2. Shar wrote:

      I think you got their suckiest customer service rep ever. She really didn’t do her job.

      Apathy from a customer service rep is unacceptable.

      Posted 06 Sep 2008 at 5:06 am
    3. SP wrote:

      Wow! Thanks for sharing! Yeah, I haven’t even become a paying member and it looks like I shouldn’t. This company is poorly run. Any company that doesn’t publish their CS phone number prominently on their site, has problems.

      Especially, since their signup page, isn’t working correctly (and as confirmed by “Elizabeth” who claims to work for eH) for 43% of customers/users. Anyone who doesn’t use IE as a browser, cannot access their basic plans. Up-sell move.

      It is unacceptable customer service to tell you how good they are, instead of fixing the problem you are telling them about. Sorry to hear you had to deal with that. You called it out so well. That ridiculous tactic is one of my pet peeves.

      Posted 27 Sep 2009 at 10:54 pm
    4. Ron wrote:

      Heavens, no, Elizabeth R in this blog doesn’t work for EH.

      Where did you read that she said or claimed she was?

      Posted 29 Sep 2009 at 8:56 am
    5. Mary wrote:

      EH: Buyer Beware! I joined EH after being an MDC member on and off for 6 years. Three months for $29.I had listened to the same rap by Dr. Warren and thought, OK. I will give it a try. No CS number. No spell check. Consider that the long,drawn out guided system forces the member to wait and wait, step by step, to even be able to write their own questions. It is like being in third grade, as if we cannot think or express ourselves on our own. The questions are limited in number. You can only pick 10 characteristics out of a long list.Do 10 words really differentiate who we are? They pick one word: example Faith or God and send carbon copy emails of any man with the word God listed. If you are an only child,don’t smoke, or like pets, that is enough for them.Like you he does not smoke and likes pets. Selections are closed the same day they send them.This long process means that unless you are lucky, you have to extend your membership to even get to the essay portion, or ask your own questions. Men do not respond quickly or say if they have no response within three days they will “close” the match. It seems like a scam. Match has a guarantee that if you do not find love in 6 months they will give you 6 months free.Any extra service is not free, it costs more money. Better feedback on your answers, send us $39.00. If they can do a better job,then do it the first time. Spelling is important,then provide spell check. Logging us out if it takes more than 10 minutes to answer a 1000 character question with no warning, or saving the page for later to complete is also another way to discourage completing the process. I see that even Dr. Warrens message must be read before you can send an essay. This is too expensive,restrictive, and hinders finding love in the right place or the right time. You cannot do your own search each time you log in. Feed back is “too far away.” So much for extending boundaries. Flexible matches are matches you would not choose because they run out of new matches. How many men belong vs. females. Are the men simply being recycled over and over because there are no new members.There is no CS. No incentive to extend a membership. No sign of training or skill with minor problems. No answer to my email re: spell check. Dr. W is a very rich man. He gets us on a hook like a fish and then makes us hang in there until we get any response at all. Who cares. We leave and he just gets more members who have no idea how little they are getting for their money until it is too late. No refunds. I am an optimistic open person. I have never been mad enough to write down anything publicly, but buyer beware. All of those answers do not mean a hill of beans. They send the same rejects over and over again. One new member a day, if I am lucky. Otherwise,sit back and wait, and wait. As in the Outer Limits, Dr. W is now in control. No sage advise. No helpful hints. Once you give them your money, the game is over. No way do they want to hear from you unless it is to “show them more money.” they keep your charge card number close at hand,if you want the premier service vs. the ho-hum feedback. Any men out there finding love? Where are the promo codes? if they can not impress me to join full price in 3 months, that is it. Full price is not competitive. I do not care about awards. I give them a D- in service. An F as in failure to look at my answers to their questions and find a match. I have played the step by step game. Photo’s, about me, answered the questions etc. Also, their questions are intrusive and too personal to share on the web with a complete stranger. Tell me your secrets. Self-disclosure is for a therapist, not a dating site. The other questions have answers that our grandparents might have chosen. Black and white answers with no place to fill in what you really would like to do on a date. If you join EH you are looking for love in all the wrong places. EH decides who,what,when, and where. Mr. Right may be in there, but there is no possible way to do a search and find him. Chemistry counts as doe as honesty. One photo should be required. As far as being who we say we are, they will verify this, and give us the seal of EH approval IF we pay more. They should be doing these things for free. Value added services should not all be on my charge card. Do you really think they are serious at all about finding us a match? They are a for profit company that sends the same feed back in one form or another to all of us. Members,the only way to make them fulfill giving us any service is to hit them where it hurts. The wallet. How do we find out the real data on members finding that true love from all of Dr. W’s research and success? No CS number. That was my first clue. I have talked to two close friends. Both said this is a rip off.Zero results. They are playing us as fools desperate for love. Try MDC. Their customer service is great.You get to choose from anywhere. There is none of the guided questions. We are adults and have a mind, not chairs that cannot think. Match has had many success stories. Two of my cousins met their spouses via Match.com. Nice professionals, and great marriages. It is not perfect. Members lie about their ages or weight, but that is the minority. You can meet them or say no thank you. It is a safe site, or you can, if you desire arrange a phone call or meeting. use caution. Write an appropriate profile that reflects what you must have, and few members that do not fit the bill will bother you with indecent proposals. If you find out that a member is dishonest MDC will contact them, and kick them out PRN. There really are thousands of members, and CS cares. Other sites have free services,like Yahoo. Most of the other Find Love at sites like AOL or MSN are just part of match.com. I noticed that the email addresses came from AOL or MSN. They do strip email addresses from first emails,.but after that you can exchange pictures, addresses, as much or as little as you want. I do not work for MDC. I met my soul mate via match and have had three other proposals. These guys are serious, generous, honest, and ready for as little or as much as you want to share. They are still close friends. I introduced one member to my best friend, and they got married within 4 months. There is a better way. I have not met another Mr. Right, but he is out there, and MDC is a much easier way to find the love you want. There are many other services. Not as many members, but they can’t be any worse. Stay away from letting anyone else pick for you from thousands of members. they have something to hide, or they would let you search yourself, and send you suggestions. Anyone else found a great way to meet others, please respond. I wish you all the very best in finding that love of your life. Do not give up after one bad rip off. If anything else happens, I will eat my words and update you on EH.Do not hold your breath. I don’t have time to play their Guided game and time out questions. Men seem fed up too. It is not just a gender thing. Also beware of automatic renewals at the full membership price. If you do not object, it will be on your credit card. You must cancel not too early and not too late. No refunds if you quit or do not give notice of desire to not renew.

      Posted 29 Oct 2009 at 5:48 am
    6. SingleGuyInNC wrote:

      Mary – what service are you talking about when you refer to “MDC”?

      Posted 29 Oct 2009 at 11:41 am
    7. Mary wrote:

      MDC or MC etc. are my own abbreviations for Match.com. I have belonged to MDC off and on for over 8 years. I have had 4 proposals. If your Profile is well written and specific, you will get appropriate responses. there are as many members as they quite. I have had a few rude people that have not replied back, and a few No way types, but I ask for the courtesy of a reply either way in my profile. MDC makes this easy,you can just click no thank you in a box. Also, if you write to 5 people a month, and you are in the 6 month Guarantee program, and keep your profile visible,they do give you an additional 6 months free! In this on line dating business, there will always be people who are not who they say they are. Gold diggers are male and female. Do not visit someone far away if you are a female,no matter how tempted. Once there, you will discover facts that someone will never write in a profile, or tell you. If you decide the person is not for you, you may have to pack in a hurry and leave things behind. Do not leave your things there on purpose. You also may learn via the phone you do not want to go back. If someone is unwilling to be a friend, why would you believe they can be any better at loving you. I discovered a gentleman MF, wanted me to give up everything and move in ASAP. He had nothing to lose. He had $8.00. He had done well, but blown all of the money. I sent him $150.00 and never heard from him again. So, this is just a warning to not get carried away with out Dr. W :_) or the EH’s Guided Ques. gestapos. On, the other hand, I moved here to marry my soul mate who was everything I could want in a man. Unfortunately, prostate cancer, and other misfortune, kept us apart. The point is, your soul mate is out there! It is a matter of timing and numbers. MDC has the numbers. Enough members to find that one in a million. It does not discriminate or dictate. It all depends on how truthful you are. You must pick someone that wants what you want at the same time. No one is perfect. Be realistic. Give every email a close look and reply. I wish you all the best. I had given up on the system, left, tried EH, and was glad I came back. In one month I have had 110 replies,one no answer, and two emails stating they were involved but wanted to thank me for my interest and hoped it would be OK to check back later. Pleasant. The EH questions looked for snags.Too general or too intrusive. I am a Christian but I also have a life. Most of the questions were about emotional stability (God forbid we react to pain or loss. Mental illness,IE depression,is a very real treatable disease. Grieving a parent and being depressed is normal over such a loss. But these men wanted perfect, stable, God fearing, perfect woman to bare their soul to a stranger with no photo. What a rip off. It makes any one with faith turned off. Our faith is private and there is freedom of choice in the USA. But, you cannot answer back without fear of this stranger drawing the wrong conclusions because you only have the choices they give you, and they may not reflect you at all. So, sorry to ramble, but Match.com is NOT a meat market. It is for profit but customer service is great. Once again ladies, beware of the guys that say they earn 150+ etc. It can be bait, and the rest of the package is not worth two cents. One guy was 10+ years older than he said he was, an ex male stripper, and made money with his ex wife making porn. He wore a toupee.He did own a few hotel franchises, he was a perfect gentleman, until he invited me to New York to shop. So I think they should post some war stories along with the success stories. Love at for at first sight may be bliss, or infatuation refreshing, and the gifts and dinners great, the search my seem over…at last, but take a long hard second look. People don’t change. Anyone that is serious will wait for you, and want you to be sure. This is written by a woman, but it goes both ways. The bottom line is Buyer Beware, and there is no yellow brick road to OZ, no matter what service. Enjoy your freedom, respect every member, and be patient. Two wholes are better than a controlling, secretive, misrepresented partner.Take off your rose colored glasses, and enjoy the journey even if there are speed bumps on the way to finding real unconditional, lasting love, with one that loves who you are, just the way you are. Best of luck. This is my first time at this type of site. I am 56, can’t type or spell. But oh what I have learned the hard way. I hope it helps shorten the search for others who are not sure of the Rules of Engagement. Mary L

      Posted 31 Oct 2009 at 7:55 pm
    8. SingleGuyInNC wrote:

      Mary,

      See my series of posts of the various issues I’ve had with Match.com:
      http://eharmony-blog.com/1320
      http://eharmony-blog.com/1480
      http://eharmony-blog.com/1718

      I am sorry but as a male, I have to beg to differ on just how well Match.com works. For a male in my age group, it just doesn’t work.

      I have had by far, the WORST response ratio on there of ANY dating service I have ever tried. I have had better luck posting on Craigslist…WITHOUT A PHOTO and have had more women contact me than I have had respond to me on Match.com.

      My head shot photo was taken by a photographer friend, my profile has been revised numerous times to be 100% genuine but is sensitive to what most women are looking for (at least what I keep reading over and over on their profiles that most of them want). I have been told I am quite handsome by women unrelated to me, am well to do, educated, active, etc. but at my current rate of success (rather, lack thereof), if I were to depend solely on Match.com, I would never go on a date.

      Six month guarantee to meet someone special? I think six YEARS would be a more appropriate length of time before I would meet someone via their service. Six months went by and I couldn’t even have an e-mail conversation with someone.

      I am actually interested in a genuine relationship, truthful, not a “player”, etc. Forget nice guys finish last. They just don’t finish on Match.com. They don’t even get a courtesy “I’m not interested” reply, let alone a date.

      The final nail in the coffin for me has been a recent conversation with their Match’s customer service where they are far worse than eHarmony has ever been to anyone that I’ve read, even my own encounter posted here.

      I have a genuine and real TECHNICAL issue with my account that could be easily solved by them but they still refuse to fix it. To see the full history of it is beyond embarrassing in terms of customer service. My issue is still unresolved after well over a month, multiple e-mails and call to the customer service number that was escalated to the manager on duty.

      As for eHarmony, it has issues, too. At least a few women bother to respond to me on there.

      The questions and process are somewhat valid and reasonable and I think pertinent towards developing a long term relationship. Read NCW’s books. I think that if you look at the process and the content of the books and compare them to the advice you would get from a therapist or counselor, it would be very similar and sound advice.

      I think for some people, they feel that some of the questions are too intrusive. That’s why you pick “soft” questions and leave the more sensitive ones for later. It is up to you to pick the questions or to just bypass the whole process and FastTrack. If someone actually bothered to do so, I am grown up and would gladly skip the guided communication but women don’t do that and most of them don’t list it as their preference (which you can do and even mention in your profile that you really do want to just FastTrack).

      If I ever manage to date someone long enough to get to that point, I do believe that NCW’s dimensions are quite reasonable in terms of developing a stable relationship and they are things that should be discussed but not until you know the other person better. I guess the women have all the power. For some, it seems that they have so many choices that they can afford to be a straight shooter and ask the gutsy stuff or not even bother to communicate with you and just close you out from the get-go.

      At this point, I don’t really care what someone asks, as long as they reply and there is decent potential, because that is tough enough to get. I am starting to think that online is a complete waste of time and money to find someone.

      Posted 31 Oct 2009 at 8:36 pm
    9. LindaM wrote:

      Having worked on the customer service rep end of these kind of transactions (NOT for eHarmony, btw), please allow me to give you a few clues on how to get really great customer service.
      1) Don’t shout or swear at the CSR! After listening to half a dozen or so people tell you, very vocally, how crappy your company/product/service is, the LAST thing you’re inclined to do when the NEXT person starts shouting in your ear is give them a deal.
      2) READ the TERMS & CONDITIONS!! Most of the calls I got could have been avoided if the customer had taken a few minutes to at least read the most important parts of the T&C (the refund policy, for example).
      3) Understand that most CSRs can spot a line of b.s. in the first 2 minutes of the call. Do you really think we’re so stupid we don’t know you got an expired promotional code or coupon from the internet? We get lists of the active promotions and, if yours isn’t one of them, guess what? YOU DON’T GET THE PROMOTION!
      4) You think we don’t recognize ‘Serial Callers’? Think again. We’re required to post notes on each and every call. These notes are clearly visible on your account, so, if you’ve called 30 times in the last 10 days, don’t expect us to take you seriously; you’re either trying to get over on us or you’re too stupid to be on the internet.

      Bottom line:
      Be nice.
      Ask for what you want, not what you think you can get.
      Be polite.
      Learn when to take “no” for an answer.
      Remember, there is a human being on the other end of the phone; talk to them like they are!

      Posted 03 Dec 2009 at 1:59 pm
    10. Annoymous wrote:

      I remember a time when the customer was valued and look on as someone you would bend over backward for. Things sure have changed. There is a human being calling also, who feel that the service Eharmony promised is what they need. And to a certain extent eharmony has played on that need. I supposed if customers want their expired coupons to count there are out of line. But I sense a lot of tension here. Perhaps you are in the wrong field. I couldn’t be a CSR.

      Posted 03 Dec 2009 at 4:48 pm
    11. Annoymous wrote:

      In addition, I find calling customer serial callers a little over the top. The only crime they have committed is giving eharmony the benefit of the doubt. I imagine their are few signs anywhere that say “We value our customers” or “The customer is alway right.” The relationship has become adversarial and one of the posts reflect that. There will always be tensions between those who pay for services and those who received it. But, there has to be respect and willingness sometimes when possible to bend the rules in favor of the customer. But what can you expect of an organization that bend over backward with all kind of “Puffery” promises and them terminiates their customers without givimg them an explanaton or due process. Customers are expendable. And so it goes.

      Posted 04 Dec 2009 at 1:17 pm
    12. Annoymous wrote:

      I meant to say there will be always be tensions between those who pay for services and those who give it. Sorry.

      Posted 04 Dec 2009 at 1:44 pm
    13. Joshua wrote:

      Why am I not getting any matches. I signed up to find a wife. I didn’t sign up just to give you my money. Do you or do you not help single christians out in finding their mates?

      Posted 21 Dec 2009 at 9:43 pm
    14. Bob wrote:

      Short and sweet. If you connect and the other person doesn’t part on good terms,they can submerine you and get you kicked off of E harmony. Ditto if you make any comment that can be taken as “annoying” a member. If you don’t respond to females as a male, they can complain and remove you,Funny that’s how lawyers and women gernerally work- don’t return the call.It has saved me money and a head ache in the long run- let them go they don’t care~never have!

      Posted 22 Dec 2009 at 9:33 pm
    15. LindaM wrote:

      Annoymous: did you ever hear the saying ‘you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar’?

      Posted 30 Dec 2009 at 11:01 am
    16. annoymous1 wrote:

      Woks both ways. In fact customer reps used to be taught to be very courteous and the Customer was always right. I have worked twice at job with customers and was told to be very courteous.” Smile at the customer.” I have worked at election and told to do the same thing bend over backward to accomodate voters. Who wants to catch flies anyway? Interesting analogy, but think it is flawed. Most people swat flies. I digress. Perhaps that is the problem customers are looked on as flies. Only people who might catch flies are biologists. But that is a stretch. I think that some people are better suited for working with customers than others. But customers are the one who help a company bring in the money. Sorry, I am on the customer’s side.

      Posted 30 Dec 2009 at 11:59 am
    17. annoymous1 wrote:

      The relationship between customers and reps should not become adversarial. If it does two things have happen the reps is not a people person and maybe the company isn’t. I am probably a behind the scene person but I sense a lot of frustration on your part. Maybe I am wrong that is my take. Granted there are some individuals who are rude, but a good reps is trained to handle it. It has to work both ways. I think we all have experienced reps who are helpful and those who aren’t. I do not think it is easy job, but it needs to be done with grace.

      Posted 30 Dec 2009 at 12:04 pm
    18. annoymous1 wrote:

      Sorry about the flies comment. But who wants to catch flies. I guess this is some silly analogy that was never analyzed. Yes maybe you can catch more flies with honey than vinegar but why do it.

      Posted 30 Dec 2009 at 1:38 pm
    19. annoymous1 wrote:

      I read Bob’s message about short and sweet. I couldn’t quite make out if he was talking about the reps keeping it “short or sweet” or the customer. It seems to me that most of the power is the reps. Granted they asked for feedback about how the incident that is what they called it went. But like Linda said they may write a customer up if they over called. And what are the consequences for that probably being bumped. And some unknowing trusting customer is unaware that they are being written up. After all they are paying for a service. You complain about your utility bill and pay it they can not turn off your electricity. So a customer may feel they have a right to be heard about problems they are having and voice their concerns. However, the rep maynot read it that way. A customer needs to know the culture sometimes of the corporation or company, government it is dealing with. And if a corporation has a tendency to go religiously by their terms and conditions (others may not) a customers needs to know that. And so it goes. I prefer corporation that are customers friendly.

      Posted 01 Jan 2010 at 5:22 pm
    20. bob wrote:

      The point I tried to make- As a male on EH- if you piss off anybody- not reps- prospective dates- they can complain- and get you tossed if you annoy them, have bad feelings with the breakup or think you are discriminating. In my cause I said I didn’t want somebody bigger than me, “I have done my time in the heavyweight division” Most thought it a wry comment- some unknown people thought I was less than human for having a 200 pound weight limit.

      Posted 02 Jan 2010 at 12:50 am

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